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tonight's lead, the mccain gang wants what it wants. today u.n. ambassador susan rice went to capitol hill to meet with the three republican senators who have been her harshest critics over what she said on sunday talk shows about the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. it was a meeting ambassador rice requested to try and clear the air. she went to the meetings with the acting cia director. but the republican senators were not swayed, not in the least. in fact, it sounded like they had settled on their talking points. here's what they said after the meeting. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed more than i was before. here's what i can tell you. the american people got bad information on 16 september, they got bad information from president obama days after. it was unjustified. to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama three wee
tonight's lead, the mccain gang wants what it wants. today u.n. ambassador susan rice went to capitol hill to meet with the three republican senators who have been her harshest critics over what she said on sunday talk shows about the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. it was a meeting ambassador rice requested to try and clear the air. she went to the meetings with the acting cia director. but the republican senators were not swayed, not in the least. in fact, it sounded like...
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john mccain was on tape questioning whether she was qualified. there's one, a powerful senator. >> he thought she was qualified before. i'm not sure what's changed. here's the problem with the entire debate. everyone is focuses, at least these three senators focus on susan rice. none focus on their former colleague, which is former senator hillary clinton. she's the secretary of state. she's the sitting secretary of state. she's leaving. guess what? the embassy security was directly under her purview and staff's purview. i'm not suggesting she did anything wrong. i'm suggesting they're barking up the wrong tree. the problem with these three senators, kelly ayotte, lindsey graham and john mccain, is they're barking up the wrong tree here. >> what is the tree that's appropriate if we continue with that metaphor? >> the sitting secretary of state. if they're concerned about what happened in benghazi with our security, with our ambassador and the three other people that were killed, they ought to ask the sitting secretary of state to come to the cong
john mccain was on tape questioning whether she was qualified. there's one, a powerful senator. >> he thought she was qualified before. i'm not sure what's changed. here's the problem with the entire debate. everyone is focuses, at least these three senators focus on susan rice. none focus on their former colleague, which is former senator hillary clinton. she's the secretary of state. she's the sitting secretary of state. she's leaving. guess what? the embassy security was directly under...
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she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> a state senator from idaho is now getting behind a plan that's been circulating on tea party blogs. calling for states that supported mitt romney to refuse to participate in the electoral college. a move they believe would change the results of the election. it's the kind of radical talk that turned off a lot of voters in the last election, but the wall street journal reports, they are regrouping, searching for candidates who can win in 2014. i'm joined by amy cramer who is chair of th
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senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't know anything about this, i'm going on every single show. >> joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor managing editor of post politics.com and our own nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. well, this was pretty tense. chris, first to you. you've seen a lot of confirmation battles. this really did seem like an escalation, a warning shot. >> maybe they come out of this and say, look, we still kind of disagree with the way this played out but the explanations that ambassador rice gave us helped us understand. instead, what we got coming out of it was, as you point out, i think, an u
senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't...
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john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is expected to released within the next 72 hours. >>> coming up, president obama may be meeting with governor romney today but also hosting other special and possibly much, much smarter guests at the white house. we'll reveal the vips next. have a good night. here you go. you, too. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the
john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is...
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where were graham, ayotte and mccain's voices there? maggie says mccain looks senile. graham looks snarky and ayotte looks like an opportunist. your three amigos. >> bill: joe lieberman who was the third amigo, he said this is foolish. he was very satisfied with his meeting with susan rice and thinks she's telling truth and that wants nothing to do with the attacks. >> so does the american public. the cnn poll showed the american public, while they feel they haven't handled it well, certainly doesn't feel that they're willing lied to. >> bill: susan is calling us from rockford, illinois. hey, susan, good morning. >> caller: hi, susan rice didn't do a thing wrong. geraldo rivera admitted on his tv show, i watched it, he congratulated himself on coining the phrase benghazi gate -- >> of course he did. >> caller: and that's thousand all got started. it was a plan, i'm sure there was money involved. somebody got paid for making up the story. that woman didn't do a thing wrong. it was b.s. from the beginning. i think geraldo needs to serve community service for you know, i
where were graham, ayotte and mccain's voices there? maggie says mccain looks senile. graham looks snarky and ayotte looks like an opportunist. your three amigos. >> bill: joe lieberman who was the third amigo, he said this is foolish. he was very satisfied with his meeting with susan rice and thinks she's telling truth and that wants nothing to do with the attacks. >> so does the american public. the cnn poll showed the american public, while they feel they haven't handled it well,...
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bill: we mentioned john mccain. who else is at this meeting, catherine. >> reporter: one of the most interesting developments this morning is that in addition to rice and the senators the acting director of the cia mike mo remember, l will -lts be at th will also be at the meeting. there is no comment on why he is there and at whose request. morel along with the senior leadership in the intelligence community said those controversial talking points about benghazi were changed after they left the u.s. intelligence community. now there has been a complete reversal of that position with a spokesman for the national of intelligence, he is the senior manager of the intelligence community saying they were behind the significant changes which involved stripping out the language of al-qaida. again the criticism of rice is that in addition to talking points she had access to classified intelligence that showed strong support for a terrorist attacks within days not within two days of the assault. bill: there is drama in these
bill: we mentioned john mccain. who else is at this meeting, catherine. >> reporter: one of the most interesting developments this morning is that in addition to rice and the senators the acting director of the cia mike mo remember, l will -lts be at th will also be at the meeting. there is no comment on why he is there and at whose request. morel along with the senior leadership in the intelligence community said those controversial talking points about benghazi were changed after they...
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obama seemed to be preparing for a fight. >> if senator john mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. >> reporter: senator ayotte said she would be willing to put a hold on a rice nomination which, under senate rules, means it would likely never come up for approval and effectively be dead. scott? >> pelley: margaret, thank you. who is susan rice? she held several positions in the collation on the national security council as an expert on african affairs and then as assistant secretary of state. rice was confirmed in the senate in 2009 unanimously for her current job as america's ambassador to the united nations. washington is also splitting tonight over the issue that is going to affect your taxes in just 34 days. that is the so-called fiscal cliff: automatic tax increases and federal budget cuts that will be imposed unless president obama and congress can make a deal on budget reform. not even everyone in the president's own party is with him on this and nancy cordes is on capitol hill for
obama seemed to be preparing for a fight. >> if senator john mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. >> reporter: senator ayotte said she would be willing to put a hold on a rice nomination which, under senate rules, means it would likely never come up for approval and effectively be dead. scott? >> pelley: margaret, thank you. who is susan rice? she held several positions in the...
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senator kelly, john mccain, and lindsay gramm. the ambassador wishes to speak with them. i am sure she will -- by snc will be accommodated. i am ondering how much mcconnell feels right about now. >> well, interesting thing for the demonstration at this point, the president is sort of trap now in nominating ambassador rice as secretary of state. waiting for the moment that hillary clinton, waiting for her to give the word, but the president, having stood so strong in her defense, strongly in her defense around what she said that up and gauzy and the video that she said was the cause of the attack that killed those americans that now they are boxed in. he prtty well has to stick with her. this is are going around to say in private what she was in public which, based on the testimony from the general and others is, it was a calculation that it was a decision that was made at the white house that it would be bad business to be out saying that it was a terrorist. lou: what is your reaction, tucker? >> what a waste of time. remarkable. i mean it. as a liticalcalculation. the pr
senator kelly, john mccain, and lindsay gramm. the ambassador wishes to speak with them. i am sure she will -- by snc will be accommodated. i am ondering how much mcconnell feels right about now. >> well, interesting thing for the demonstration at this point, the president is sort of trap now in nominating ambassador rice as secretary of state. waiting for the moment that hillary clinton, waiting for her to give the word, but the president, having stood so strong in her defense, strongly...
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i believe i'm quoting senator mccain who said not bright and called her incompetent as well. so i don't understand why everyone is not calling hillary clinton on the carpet, which has not happened. she has said the buck stops with her, some version of that. i guess i would love for you to explain that to me. >> quite candidly, in the first briefing that we had it sha-- it the date, but secretary of clinton was the first person in the administration to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. i think she has been forthcoming in the disclosures that have taken place. it's the administration, even d.i. clapper, national intelligence director clapper, only a week or so ago that he finally acknowledged they had done the scrubbing of what was released as the talking points. >> roland martin here. now i'm confused. you just said we need to understand about security, why was it in place, but the problem is secretary clinton, that was her department. so that's why i'm confused. is it a question of who acknowledge acknowledged a terrorist tie or who was responsible for prudent security
i believe i'm quoting senator mccain who said not bright and called her incompetent as well. so i don't understand why everyone is not calling hillary clinton on the carpet, which has not happened. she has said the buck stops with her, some version of that. i guess i would love for you to explain that to me. >> quite candidly, in the first briefing that we had it sha-- it the date, but secretary of clinton was the first person in the administration to acknowledge this was a terrorist...
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i have a real issue with that. >> when ask good mccain, rice was conciliatory -- asked about mccain, rice was conciliatory. >> i have great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have, and i always will. i do think that some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded, but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> that's today. after saying mccain would do whatever it takes to block rice's nomination, he now appears to be softening. he says rice deserves the chance to explain her actions. so in light of all of this, the "talk back" question -- should susan rice be considered for secretary of state? facebook.com/carolcnn. facebook.com/carolcnbc. yo -- facebook.com/carolcnn. your comments later. >>> do police have a right to seize your cell phone for evidence some what about your gps and texts? we'll talk about this legal clash between the law and technology. [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a gr
i have a real issue with that. >> when ask good mccain, rice was conciliatory -- asked about mccain, rice was conciliatory. >> i have great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have, and i always will. i do think that some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded, but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> that's today. after saying mccain would do whatever it takes to...
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mccain, graham and ayotte all said they would block any effort to advance rice if she is nominated. i'm ed payne, reporting. >> later this week rice will meet with acting cia director mike morrell as well as senator susan collins of maine the top republican on the homeland security committee. >>> more republicans say the looming "fiscal cliff" is forcing them to reconsider their no tax pledges. some are now open to changes. dick durbin plans to lay out a proposal for a bipartisan group deemed the gang of 8. they have been working on a plan to reduce debt. if the lawmakers don't pass a plan by the end of the december tax hikes and budget cuts kick in. >>> a cyber monday tradition for federal officials took dozens of websites offline. it was the third annual crackdown on websites selling counterfeit merchandise. the sites were shut done after copyright holders that sports, dvds and other goods investigators bought on the websites were fake. the sites now display a banner that explains what happened. >>> robbers in san francisco are stealing iphones at an alarming rate. now, some peopl
mccain, graham and ayotte all said they would block any effort to advance rice if she is nominated. i'm ed payne, reporting. >> later this week rice will meet with acting cia director mike morrell as well as senator susan collins of maine the top republican on the homeland security committee. >>> more republicans say the looming "fiscal cliff" is forcing them to reconsider their no tax pledges. some are now open to changes. dick durbin plans to lay out a proposal for a...
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with today's meeting she hoped she could face the senators lindsey graham, john mccain. kelly ayotte who claim she misled the public during the explanation of the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, which ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed. now as a result of this meeting one has to raise the question, particularly with the white house, is this a nomination they can move forward with considering the fact that the all three senators left very troubled by answers. jenna: all the questions who is behind the attacks in benghazi, when they, if ever will be brought to justice? we can't lose focus on that along with the politics is an important story today. kelly, thank you so much. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. jon: as the clock ticks toward that many looking fiscal cliff president obama is taking his case to small business owners from across the country, meeting with more than a dozen at the white house, looking to avoid a year-end tax hikes and spending cuts. republican leaders will meet with a bipartisan group of form
with today's meeting she hoped she could face the senators lindsey graham, john mccain. kelly ayotte who claim she misled the public during the explanation of the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, which ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed. now as a result of this meeting one has to raise the question, particularly with the white house, is this a nomination they can move forward with considering the fact that the all three senators left...
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senator john mccain will join neil cavuto next hour coming up at 4:00 eastern. a fox urgent, explosions in cairo's tahrir square according to our reporter on the ground as a crowd which he described as similar in size to the gathering during the arab spring. protesting against the islamist president and the muslim brotherhood. 200,000 egyptians are estimated to pack the streets in the growing outrage over the president morsi's takeover. last week, the president from the muslim brotherhood issued several decrees including an order that every decision he makes is a final decision, no review. critics say he appointed himself as a dictator two years after a massive popular uprising ousted mubarak. our eyes and ears on the ground, these are the latest crowds you have seen in tahrir square, right, steve? >> the five days since the decree we wondered if the protests would get bigger or smaller. they are growing larger and more angry. the crowd today well over 100,000 people in tahrir square, and from different walks of life, different political stories. the opposition
senator john mccain will join neil cavuto next hour coming up at 4:00 eastern. a fox urgent, explosions in cairo's tahrir square according to our reporter on the ground as a crowd which he described as similar in size to the gathering during the arab spring. protesting against the islamist president and the muslim brotherhood. 200,000 egyptians are estimated to pack the streets in the growing outrage over the president morsi's takeover. last week, the president from the muslim brotherhood...
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everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some people wonder if there's a little bit of political opportunism there. >> i want to go back to something krystal said a minute ago. closing ranks behind susan rice because much political battle lines in this. you made the point earlier if you just looked at this without regard to benghazi and said john mccain realistically speaking, who potentially could appoint secretary of state that would agree ideological with you. realistically susan rice is as good as he can do. the consensus in the democratic party is probably to the right of it. i wonder is there any push-back from the left or from democrats in washington toward the administration just saying, hey, look, don't fall for this trap of nominating susan rice because you have to? get somebody that agrees more? >> susan rice is very well respected, and i know a lot of progressives wanted her to be a spokesperson because they thought she was effective. susan rice is known as the conscience of the administration when it comes to
everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some people wonder if there's a little bit of political opportunism there. >> i want to go back to something krystal said a minute ago. closing ranks behind susan rice because much political battle lines in this. you made the point earlier if you just looked at this without regard to benghazi and said john mccain realistically speaking, who potentially could appoint secretary of state that would agree ideological with you. realistically...
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we've got senator mccain to co- sponsor it. as we try to broaden out from there, we had to start compromising. we never intended the across the board cuts to go into affect. we wanted to make them so terrible that congress would have a shield for they could say to people -- i do not want to do these things. if i do not do that, look at the terrible things that happen. we started off with the idea that the first thing you should cut is the cost of living increases built into entitlements. we explained it to people as the plate glass effect. visited with about 25 senators, we came back and struck it out of the bill. we continued to work, and we continued to compromise, and at the end of the day, the baby was not as pretty as one we started, but we concluded it was pretty enough to continue on with it. warren rudman was a strong, courageous man. he stood up for principle. he was willing to fight for things. in this era where everyone in this town is focused on compromise, he was a person willing to compromise. he was willing to co
we've got senator mccain to co- sponsor it. as we try to broaden out from there, we had to start compromising. we never intended the across the board cuts to go into affect. we wanted to make them so terrible that congress would have a shield for they could say to people -- i do not want to do these things. if i do not do that, look at the terrible things that happen. we started off with the idea that the first thing you should cut is the cost of living increases built into entitlements. we...
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john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain went on fox news to try to continue to advance his theory of a massive white house cover-up of the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. senator mccain has been advancing this cover-up theory demanding answers. he appears to be tuning out those answers when they are provided to him. it is getting weirder and weirder over time. here, watch. >> who changed the talking points that were used by ambassador rice? that is a question senator mccain that we have the answer to. the intelligence agencies acknowledged last week that they were the ones
john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain...
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>> i think what john mccain who, first of all, i don't think i could have done what john mccain did as a prisoner of war. i have the greatest respect for that man. but i think what he did today, he paused and remembered what we learned in the military -- expect what you inspect. he basic low said, look, i am going to give her an opportunity to explain what really did go down. i am going to be an american before i'm partisan. i want to know what went down. then i will make my judgment. i think that's what everybody should do. i think as i have said before, there are those who happened with certain aspects of benghazi, where it's less than a commanding effort. but all of that said, the accountability review board with the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff on it, just like we had one a few years earlier, needs to get to the root of what occurred and then let's do what the americans want. let's make a decision upon the facts in a very pragmatic way. what people are saying in washington, d.c., trust is our biggest deficit. we need to react on the facts and then that's what should be don
>> i think what john mccain who, first of all, i don't think i could have done what john mccain did as a prisoner of war. i have the greatest respect for that man. but i think what he did today, he paused and remembered what we learned in the military -- expect what you inspect. he basic low said, look, i am going to give her an opportunity to explain what really did go down. i am going to be an american before i'm partisan. i want to know what went down. then i will make my judgment. i...
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lindsey graham, senator mccain and kelly ayotte said they are more concerned than before she came up to capitol hill to offer her explanation, and her changing story, not just her changing story but that of the administration. we are awaiting press secretary jay karen see and a comment on today's meeting. the conventional wisdom is they sent her up there to smooth over the waters before president obama nominates her. but they did not take miss rice's answers too well. >> i want to say i'm more troubled today knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice, because it is certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al-qaida were involved in the attack on the embassy, and clearly the impression that was given and the information given to the american people was wrong. megyn: senator kelly ae ayotte will join us live next hour. this will be her first public interview since she sat down with miss rice this morning. what exactly did ambassador rice say behind closed doors? why is senator yea a yeah at anayotte and the other two senato
lindsey graham, senator mccain and kelly ayotte said they are more concerned than before she came up to capitol hill to offer her explanation, and her changing story, not just her changing story but that of the administration. we are awaiting press secretary jay karen see and a comment on today's meeting. the conventional wisdom is they sent her up there to smooth over the waters before president obama nominates her. but they did not take miss rice's answers too well. >> i want to say i'm...
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rice met with republican senators john mccain, lindsay graham, and kelly ayott, all had vowed to block her nomination after what she said about the deadly attack on americans on n benghazi, libya. here's what graham said moments ago when the meeting came to a close. >> if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. here's what i can tell you -- the american people got bad information on 16, september. they got bad information from president obama days after. and the question is should they have been giving the information at all. if you can do nothing but give bad information, isn't it better to give no information at all? >> ah. let's go straight to cnn's dana bash. so before we heard that pretty explosive news conference, it seemed as though there was a bit of a softening of some of the gop's opposition to ms. rice's moving up in the president's cabinet. now after hearing that, i need to get some clarity if i can from you about whether the criticism is about ms. ric
rice met with republican senators john mccain, lindsay graham, and kelly ayott, all had vowed to block her nomination after what she said about the deadly attack on americans on n benghazi, libya. here's what graham said moments ago when the meeting came to a close. >> if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. here's what i can tell you -- the american people got...
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it was john mccain. and that's one of the ironies that's lost in all this. >> because gadhafi was our help -- >> he was helpful against al qaeda. absolutely. >> this is really black spy, white spy. this is crazy stuff. thank you. michael o'hanlon and jonathan landay. >>> elections have consequences, i say it all the time. and the democrats are feeling emboldened. they want to see taxes go up on the rich. they want to protect programs like medicare and medicaid. will they give president obama room to negotiate some kind of deal that gets through this hell coming january 1st. they say they won, the other side lost, they're going to fight. >>> plus democrats are moving to end the so-called silent filibuster which republicans have used to quietly say if you don't have 60 votes, you ain't going nowhere. this is the big question, if they're successful, it's possible, it's possible the democrats will be able to get some things done. we'll talk about that in a minute. they're going to be just like jimmy stewart
it was john mccain. and that's one of the ironies that's lost in all this. >> because gadhafi was our help -- >> he was helpful against al qaeda. absolutely. >> this is really black spy, white spy. this is crazy stuff. thank you. michael o'hanlon and jonathan landay. >>> elections have consequences, i say it all the time. and the democrats are feeling emboldened. they want to see taxes go up on the rich. they want to protect programs like medicare and medicaid. will...
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she didn't attack john mccain and said i respect john mccain for his service and i look forward to talking to him and explaining my side of the story. how could senator mccain go i don't want to talk to her . senator graham said i i can't give my time? she is a scholar and see if she can win them over. i don't think that john kerry is really on everyone's a list anyway and they might be saying are we better off as a nation. >> gretchen: y are right. she is putting those top three republicans in a box in the meeting today. it will be difficult for them to come out now and criticize her, she is the one who offered the olive branch to come and have the meeting with them. it is nothing to do with whether or not she should be secretary of state. but the optics of this and work in her favor in a huge way today. >> steve: generally before somebody is nominated for a big job they go talk to the opposite party. it could be an explanation of why she would being up to capitol hill with mike morell. i said that because this guy's department told me to say that? >> brian: we know the cia's director sai
she didn't attack john mccain and said i respect john mccain for his service and i look forward to talking to him and explaining my side of the story. how could senator mccain go i don't want to talk to her . senator graham said i i can't give my time? she is a scholar and see if she can win them over. i don't think that john kerry is really on everyone's a list anyway and they might be saying are we better off as a nation. >> gretchen: y are right. she is putting those top three...
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senator john mccain had the first meeting with ambassador rice. we spoke with him a short time ago. senator, nice to see you. >> thank you, gret greta. >> greta: today the president obama told her he couldn't be prouder of her job, and rest of the exhibi exhibit exhibicabine. do you agree? >> no, i don't. the handling of the benghazi tragedy that took the lives of four americans is to me -- raises many, many questions about her qualifications to be the secretary of state. >> greta: you met with her yesterday. how long did you have with her? >> i think it was well over an hour that we spent. many of the questions that we have were not answered. there was other questions, for example, i asked her why -- why on the nationwide shows on sunday she said that the president has killed osama bin laden and decimated al-qaeda. that's simply a false statement. al-qaeda is on the rise. they've reconstituted themselves in many places. they're all over the middle east, including pouring into syria as we speak, as well as libya, iraq, etc. >> greta: what did she say? >> she said, well, maybe i shou
senator john mccain had the first meeting with ambassador rice. we spoke with him a short time ago. senator, nice to see you. >> thank you, gret greta. >> greta: today the president obama told her he couldn't be prouder of her job, and rest of the exhibi exhibit exhibicabine. do you agree? >> no, i don't. the handling of the benghazi tragedy that took the lives of four americans is to me -- raises many, many questions about her qualifications to be the secretary of state....
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mccain isn't buying it. are you buying it? >> i'm not buying it because the chairman of the intelligence committee said a week ago in classified testimony that same clapper said that they had no idea who changed the talking points and now a week later he says he did? that's kind of strange. >> bill: a lot of lying going on here. >> i mean, i've seen amnesia in my day in my clinical days and that one is pretty quick of the one week. >> bill: okay. again, i know you don't play a psychiatrist on tv, but there has got to be a reason behind this. any theory on what's behind this crazy stuff? , this there are a lot of theories, burr all i know is that in the ends, the narrative spun by susan rice and continued by the president afterwards for days and days afterwards on letterman and elsewhere was that it was a riot out of control because they didn't want the country to know that obama's boast that al-qaeda was on its heels was simply not true. he kept repeating that throughout the campaign. >> bill: they wanted to protect the campai
mccain isn't buying it. are you buying it? >> i'm not buying it because the chairman of the intelligence committee said a week ago in classified testimony that same clapper said that they had no idea who changed the talking points and now a week later he says he did? that's kind of strange. >> bill: a lot of lying going on here. >> i mean, i've seen amnesia in my day in my clinical days and that one is pretty quick of the one week. >> bill: okay. again, i know you don't...
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joe lieberman was close to john mccain. he has broken with mccain on this issue. he had a meeting with her yesterday and thinks she told the truth about what happened and does not have any issue with that. there is an the guy going -- investigation going on the fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions -- fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions about security, and why chris stevens was in the gaza without better protection -- again, those are separate -- benghazi without better protection -- but again, those are separate questions. host: north carolina. republican. you are next. caller: i think this susan rice thing is a smokescreen. you have somebody that is an ambassador and rehearses talking points, and she does not question or analyze the information, whether it is true or not. the cia says they knew this was a terrorist attack within 24 hours, and days later she is voicing the same thing, as well as president obama. consequently, it looks like the whole problem goes about her. i am a retired captain in the navy. if you do not have leader
joe lieberman was close to john mccain. he has broken with mccain on this issue. he had a meeting with her yesterday and thinks she told the truth about what happened and does not have any issue with that. there is an the guy going -- investigation going on the fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions -- fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions about security, and why chris stevens was in the gaza without better protection -- again, those are separate -- benghazi without...
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lou: what about those folks like senator john mccain, senator lindsay gramm, senator chambliss the list goes on. i mean -- >> it doesn't go on. it does not go on. here's the good news. all the people who last week and said we might raise taxes under certain circumstances with the same people who said that two years ago. and every news media outlet in the country has said the last week, would you like to be famous? would you like to be called important and influential? come to our tv station and announced you areefor tax increases and we will tell everyone you are important and influential. they have had no takers, for crying out loud. all of the guys for two years have said we might raise taxes are still there. how do you think these centers like being called harry reads favor republican senators? not the way to get reelected. lou: i get that. the list does go on. he said today in articulating the idea that going with the obama plan was an interesting tactic. you must let the congressman a great deal because, as you know, the white house has seized upon that. they're going to continue t
lou: what about those folks like senator john mccain, senator lindsay gramm, senator chambliss the list goes on. i mean -- >> it doesn't go on. it does not go on. here's the good news. all the people who last week and said we might raise taxes under certain circumstances with the same people who said that two years ago. and every news media outlet in the country has said the last week, would you like to be famous? would you like to be called important and influential? come to our tv...
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remember the president hosted a 2009 dinner in john mccain's honor. though that didn't stop mccain from becoming a fierce critic, it was the right thing to do. it's a little different because romney is the first losing nominee since michael due kas cac kiss in 1988 who has not gone back to washington for a job even temporarily which forced the logistics to be more intentional. they eat meat one-on-one at the private dining room at the bhous, no cameras, no staff. the president's spokesman yesterday was very careful to manage expectations. >> is governor romney here tomorrow in some kind of cabinet level position, some kind of audition for that position? >> no, no. >> romney will also meet with his running mate congressman paul ryan for the first time since the election. if cameras catch it, it's likely it might happen somewhere on capitol hill. we've been told it will be held in a private place, not in the u.s. capitol, not in one of the buildings. cameras did capture governor romney going to disney. he'll have office space at solo mere, the firm co-f
remember the president hosted a 2009 dinner in john mccain's honor. though that didn't stop mccain from becoming a fierce critic, it was the right thing to do. it's a little different because romney is the first losing nominee since michael due kas cac kiss in 1988 who has not gone back to washington for a job even temporarily which forced the logistics to be more intentional. they eat meat one-on-one at the private dining room at the bhous, no cameras, no staff. the president's spokesman...
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i have great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have. and i always will. i do think that some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded. but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> senator mccain, of course, has said that susan rice is not qualified to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. and he said he would block her nomination. representative jesse jackson jr. resigned from congress saying he needs to spend more time on his health. he's been battling bipolar disorder and other things. in a letter to john boehner, jackson said his constituents deserve a full time legislator in washington, something i can not be for the foreseeable future. my health issues and treatment regimen is incompatible with service in the house of representatives. jackson is the subject of investigations by the fbi aej house ethics committee. >>> a group of world powers say they want to resume negotiations with iran over the nuclear program as soon as possible. the last time what
i have great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have. and i always will. i do think that some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded. but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> senator mccain, of course, has said that susan rice is not qualified to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. and he said he would block her nomination. representative jesse jackson jr. resigned...
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she met with lindsey graham, john mccain, kelly ayotte who said we respectfully disagree with the white house statement that there are no unanswered question about ambassador rice's sunday appearance. they talk about the acting director of the c.i.a. saying that the c.i.a., the f.b.i. removes the references to al-qaeda in the talking points. to ple vent compromising and ongoing criminal investigation. they say, the senators say at 4:00 this afternoon, the c.i.a. officials contacted us and indicated that the acting director morrell misspoke in the earlier meeting and the c.i.a. says it deleted the al-qaeda reference, not the f.b.i. and unable to give us a reason why. one thing also about the al-qaeda being taken out, it was not just the five sunday shows blaminth spontaneous demonstration there wasn't, never a demonstration. susan rice said this. >> president obama said running for president he'd row focus our effort on al-qaeda. we decimateed al-qaeda. usama bin laden is gone. we decimateed al-qaeda. usama bin laden is dead. he said that al-qaeda was decimated in both interviews so that
she met with lindsey graham, john mccain, kelly ayotte who said we respectfully disagree with the white house statement that there are no unanswered question about ambassador rice's sunday appearance. they talk about the acting director of the c.i.a. saying that the c.i.a., the f.b.i. removes the references to al-qaeda in the talking points. to ple vent compromising and ongoing criminal investigation. they say, the senators say at 4:00 this afternoon, the c.i.a. officials contacted us and...
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senator ayotte and sflor mccain and senator graham have been about ambassador rice. she hasn't been that critical up until now. but those meetings are not over. when she emerges, when ambassador rice emerges from this meeting -- >> reporter: ashleigh i'm going to interrupt you because senator collins is here right now. >> terrific. if you could grab her for us that would be terrific. we'll find out the tenor. let's listen. >> i've just cudedn hour and 15 minutes with ambassador t remain unanswered. i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election campaign by agreeing to go on the sunday shows to present the administration's position. in addition, it is interesting to me that ambassador rice emphasized in her presentation not that this was a terrorist attack by al qaeda affiliates but, rather, that it had begun with a protest that we nownow was nonexistent and that it was linked to a video, which we also know is not accurate. at the time ambassador
senator ayotte and sflor mccain and senator graham have been about ambassador rice. she hasn't been that critical up until now. but those meetings are not over. when she emerges, when ambassador rice emerges from this meeting -- >> reporter: ashleigh i'm going to interrupt you because senator collins is here right now. >> terrific. if you could grab her for us that would be terrific. we'll find out the tenor. let's listen. >> i've just cudedn hour and 15 minutes with...
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john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and i want to say -- >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassador rice said today, absolutely it was wrong. >> drunk driving
john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video....
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but so has senator mccain and graham. watch this, governor. >> i believe that suddam hussein presents clear and present danger to acquire weapons of mass destruction and there's very little doubt that he would use them. we're going to find weapons of mass destruction and we're going to find incredible brew tal teas that this dictator has inflicted on the iraqi people. >> he has weapons of mass destruction. he is lying when he says he doesn't. >> now, this led up to the iraq war. both of them saying there were weapons of mass destruction that wasn't there. these are the people that are now trying to say that susan rice gave bad information when she gave information that she was given by intelligence. >> you know, reverend, i held the job susan did, as you mentioned. and we would get, whenever we would go on a news show, an intelligence briefing or piece of paper that gave you the guidance that you had on an event overseas. susan was following that guidance and she did it very well. she did it on news shows. and to suggest
but so has senator mccain and graham. watch this, governor. >> i believe that suddam hussein presents clear and present danger to acquire weapons of mass destruction and there's very little doubt that he would use them. we're going to find weapons of mass destruction and we're going to find incredible brew tal teas that this dictator has inflicted on the iraqi people. >> he has weapons of mass destruction. he is lying when he says he doesn't. >> now, this led up to the iraq...
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mccain: i move to reconsider the last vote. a senator: are we in a quorum call? a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from new hampshire is recognized. ms. ayotte: thank you, mr. president. i want to talk this morning about an amendment that i had intended to offer but i'm not going to be offering today because there are -- there is an important portion of the house armed services committee that covers my concerns, and that was the amendment that i had drafted that is cosponsored by senators lieberman and collins, and i appreciate their support. it would be to establish an east coast ballistic missile defense site to make sure that the east coast of our country is protected from missile threats. and let me describe why i thought it was very important. my amendment would have established both a study on three potential locations for an east coast missile defense site, an environmental impact study and a plan for deployment of that site. where we are right now, unfortunately we have iran and no one disagrees that iran has an active ballistic missile develop
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>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for the incomplete and in some cases wrong story she gave on five different shows that sunday, i don't think that behind closed doors the republican senators were going after her personally. they came out afterwards and made it sound like the grave matter it was involving her. i don't think that's where they're at behind closed doors. >> let's listen to president obama on november 14th. about the senator's attacks on ambassador rice. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target? then they've got a problem with me. and should i choose, if i think that she wou
>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for...
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. >>> tonight, senators mccain and graham former u.n. ambassador bolton, pat buchanan, former state department official liz cheney and former secretary of state henry kissinger, they are all here. we are looking ahead to foreign policy in president obama's second term. this is a special edition of "on the record." >> four years later after the nobel peace prize where do we stand as a nation? in case you haven't her, bin laden is dead, that's good. that's not a foreign policy. there is no coherent foreign policy when we need one. >> we keep hoping something is going to change but it isn't. >> one of the ramifications of an obama presidency is defense is not going to grow. >> the coordinated preplanned and brazen taxes again the u.s. consulate in benghazi, september 11th, was an outrage. >> security was laxed. >> it appears to many persons ma this administration failed to adequately protect u.s. personnel. >> president has been skipping his daily intelligence briefings. >> the president: with respect to iran i very much want to see a diplo
. >>> tonight, senators mccain and graham former u.n. ambassador bolton, pat buchanan, former state department official liz cheney and former secretary of state henry kissinger, they are all here. we are looking ahead to foreign policy in president obama's second term. this is a special edition of "on the record." >> four years later after the nobel peace prize where do we stand as a nation? in case you haven't her, bin laden is dead, that's good. that's not a foreign...
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they and john mccain tell reporters their questions about benghazi have gone unanswered. they say ambassador rice didn't answer them in their meeting with her this morning. and apparently neither did david petraeus in his closed door testimony more than a week ago. nor other administration officials in their testimony a week prior to that. mind you, senator mccain and others skipped that because it was in conflict with their benghazi media schedule. regardless, they have now had the opportunity to meet practically every major actor in this ginned up controversy, but it doesn't matter because this is all they had to say just a short time ago. >> significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified. >> joining us now is goldie taylor, an msnbc contributor and author, and dana mill barbankmi columni isist for "the washingt post." who else do republicans need to hear from because we're running out of names or are they exp
they and john mccain tell reporters their questions about benghazi have gone unanswered. they say ambassador rice didn't answer them in their meeting with her this morning. and apparently neither did david petraeus in his closed door testimony more than a week ago. nor other administration officials in their testimony a week prior to that. mind you, senator mccain and others skipped that because it was in conflict with their benghazi media schedule. regardless, they have now had the opportunity...
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when it came to senator mccain she was quite diplomatic. >> i was great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have and i always will. i do think some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> just one reminder of state of play on this investigation and information. we now understand that the cia drafted those talking points. the dni, director of national intelligence removed the word al qaeda. they said it came from classic information. it's a tightly and it might influence the investigations. >> republicans will probably not be satisfied by rice's explanations. >> reporter: i would think not at this point because i don't think she really moves the ball from what we understood and that is what the administration has been saying. she was given this information by the intelligence community and that she repeated it and that there was no intention to mislead. it hasn't been accepted by the republicans yet and we'll just have to see where they
when it came to senator mccain she was quite diplomatic. >> i was great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have and i always will. i do think some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> just one reminder of state of play on this investigation and information. we now understand that the cia drafted those talking points. the dni,...
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first the lead story, three republican senators, mccain from arizona, graham from south carolina, and ayotte from new hampshire, met with u.n. ambassador susan rice today. remember ambassador rice misled the world how christopher stevens was murdered in benghazi on 9-11. the senators wanted to hear her explanation because she might be nominated as secretary of state. the meeting did not go well because the issue of initially ignoring the terrorist involvement was not explained by dr. rice. >> as i understand it, the explanation is that that was being withheld, the al-qaeda involvement was -- that point of the talking points was being withheld for classified reasons, but i also explored didn't you question that because that left, if you were to omit that portion, it leaves a very different impression to the american people and frankly, i didn't get a satisfactory answer to that. >> bill: joining us from washington to react, fox news analyst charles krauthammer. so bigger mess now than it's ever been. here is my assessment based on what happened today. i'm going to go on the record. thi
first the lead story, three republican senators, mccain from arizona, graham from south carolina, and ayotte from new hampshire, met with u.n. ambassador susan rice today. remember ambassador rice misled the world how christopher stevens was murdered in benghazi on 9-11. the senators wanted to hear her explanation because she might be nominated as secretary of state. the meeting did not go well because the issue of initially ignoring the terrorist involvement was not explained by dr. rice....
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and i understand from senator mccain, i understand from senator mccain these amendments have been cleared on his side. i understand that these -- and i now ask consent the senate consider these amendments en bloc, the amendments be agreed to and the motion to reconsider be laid on the table. the presiding officer: is there objection? without objection, it's so ordered. the amendments are agreed to en bloc. the senator from michigan. mr. levin: what is the pending matter? the presiding officer: it is now in order for the senator from new hampshire to offer an amendment. mr. levin: and there are 20 minutes equally divided, i understand? the presiding officer: there will be. mr. levin: i would -- oh, the senator from new hampshire is ready to proceed. the presiding officer: the senator from new hampshire. ms. ayotte: i ask unanimous consent to temporarily set aside the pending amendments so i may call up my amendment 3245 which is at the desk. the presiding officer: without objection. ms. ayotte thank you, mr. president. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: the senator fr
and i understand from senator mccain, i understand from senator mccain these amendments have been cleared on his side. i understand that these -- and i now ask consent the senate consider these amendments en bloc, the amendments be agreed to and the motion to reconsider be laid on the table. the presiding officer: is there objection? without objection, it's so ordered. the amendments are agreed to en bloc. the senator from michigan. mr. levin: what is the pending matter? the presiding officer:...
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appropriate note of senator mccain's fervent commitment to this, and to the comments he made about former attorney general dick thornburgh. i knew the attorney general when he was attorney general, have enormous respect for him and for his career, and i think senator mccain was 100% correct when he quoted him in the record as saying nothing in this treaty will require any initiative by the united states to change a law or reduce any capacity of our courts to uphold the constitution of the united states. and i think he did an important service in his comments with respect to to that. our fight is not over, we have some work to do in the next days and i look forward to working with him on that. mr. lugar: i join the chairman in thanking john mccain for his testimony, his courage, his eloquence, his mention of those on our side of the aisle historically who have fought for the disabled. that's a very important fact today, and his presence, his strength, and determination were very inspiring. we appreciate so much his testimony. mr. kerry: mr. president, i suggest -- the presiding officer: th
appropriate note of senator mccain's fervent commitment to this, and to the comments he made about former attorney general dick thornburgh. i knew the attorney general when he was attorney general, have enormous respect for him and for his career, and i think senator mccain was 100% correct when he quoted him in the record as saying nothing in this treaty will require any initiative by the united states to change a law or reduce any capacity of our courts to uphold the constitution of the...
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reporter: senator mccain says things are moving in the right direction. the f-35 planes have stealth capability and can fly into enemy capability without being detected. hopefully all the remaining kinks will be worked out in the pilots will be able to fly the new fighter jets in the next several months. jenna: rick, thank you so much. jon: thank you for joining us today or it. jenna: it's a bit heavy with us. "america live" starts right now. megyn: we are looking at the
reporter: senator mccain says things are moving in the right direction. the f-35 planes have stealth capability and can fly into enemy capability without being detected. hopefully all the remaining kinks will be worked out in the pilots will be able to fly the new fighter jets in the next several months. jenna: rick, thank you so much. jon: thank you for joining us today or it. jenna: it's a bit heavy with us. "america live" starts right now. megyn: we are looking at the
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but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called her up there. >> no question about that. she's pushing these meetings, the one asking for these meetings. like i said, if this is auditioning to be our top diplomat, what that's what these meetings are about -- >> sometimes you go into meetings in diplomacy and you do come out aggressively because some foreign countries aren't our allies and aren't going to be. >> no question. >> as far as she can tell, john mccain doesn't seem like an alloy so it was a tough meeting. that's fine. >> joy-ann, last word. >> john mccain is driven by his resentments and his piques. the idea when he was beaten
but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called...